Child support enforcement is the end result of welfare. It is now considered a $100 BILLION/YR. industry. And, it all started when University of Wisconsin Professor Winkelstein brought back the child support enforcement laws from socialist Sweden in the late 1970s. Child Support Enforcement was known as "The Wisconsin Model". What people do not realize is that child support enforcement (the greatest welfare program on Earth, since it has now attacked the middle and upper classes), came from former Soviet Family Law and is now part of Russian Family Law, Article 81.
Child support welfare and its enforcement bureaucracy using asset seizure, wage garnishment, imprisonment for debt, and destroying a father's ability to survive, made it profitable for women to take the father out of the family and use the father as personal bank account until his assets, resources, and work ethic were destroyed, and all that was left was a human husk after they dropped out of society. This is the Socialist/Communist way. Remove the father from the family, insert the state as the "Daddy", destroy the family, and the State's power is increased exponentially. And, it is paid for "happily" by the taxpayers being duped by all of this.
All very true. I write quite a lot about child support in my new book, "Who Lost America?" and I discuss it at length on my YoTube interview with "This is Shah". In fact, he too discusses it a lot and very knowledgeably, especially in his interview with Pearl Davis. I notice that Jeff Younger does as well with his own interview with Pearl just this past week. So hopefully we can get it into the "mainstream", where it should be. It drives a lot of chacenery. Thanks for the summary, Bruce.
After being a fathers rights advocate and divorce reform advocate since 1985, and being a constitutional law and family law legal technician and paralegal for over 35 years, I testified before Congress (attempted to stop Sen. Bill Bradley's anti-retroactive child support arrearages provision in the child support enforcement laws). I testified before the NJ Legislature numerous times on child support, presumptive joint custody, incorporating a false allegation punishment section into the NJ DV laws, alimony modification laws, and participating in blocking family court judicial re-nominations, I have accumulated vast knowledge on the NJ, NY, NC, GA and Federal courts and how they work involving fathers' rights and divorce reform.
I am sure there are enough men and women that will remain in marriages to perpetuate the species. If not, then your idea of sperm banks or paying men to have children (like they do in Communist China) will result.
Your comments are well taken. Generally, the notion of government efficiency can lead to atrocity. Efficiency isn't the same as getting things right. I'm an engineer, so I understand this completely and it's almost simple at some point. Of course, we strive for efficiency. But doing some foolish simple thing that doesn't work properly is a bad thing. I'm following the news on this one, and trying to use sources that don't fall into the simple stupid category: https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trumps-new-doge-begins-to-identify-federal-agencies-for-overhaul-5764627
"and saw that enlisting and manipulating the poor as political pawns could help to eradicate those values. From the start, it was designed to control a population"
Stephen you really get to the point.
The thing that took me a long time to question anything was to actually know what the question possibly was!! One of the big questions I have for people, not literally, is 'where does the money come from and where does it go to?'
when I read your sentence I really saw an image of the poor revelling in the money they received from the evil capitalists or people who earned more than them but until one starts thinking about, "what happens to me if I got so rich?"
There is a young woman here in Switzerland, socialist who has brought up that anyone with an inheritance of 50 million plus Swiss francs should pay huge taxes.. I asked myself or question.. what happens if you win the Swiss or European Lottery which is sometimes worth 44 million.. in a few moves one could find themselves a multi millionaire and all of a sudden having to pay taxes that one never dreamt of..because one had been poor most of the life...
another example is: I know of someone who refuses to work for Big Pharma because of all their evil ways and yet they are quite happy to work in France for a University and 'possibly' being paid by Tax Payers money... I get it.. but I have to ask questions.
Sorry, the University of Wisconsin Professor who brought Soviet-style child support enforcement into the United States was no Winkelstein, but Irwin Garfinkle.
PS to all this: Dean Tong provides help to families caught up on false child abuse accusations, including serving as an expert witness. In fact, he gave me the idea for this article: https://www.facebook.com/Tongdean560/
“From the start, it [welfare] stemmed from an ideology that was deeply hostile to traditional values like family and country, and saw that enlisting and manipulating the poor as political pawns could help to eradicate those values. From the start, it was designed to control a population.”
The question is begged, what created poverty?
Do you ever consider and discuss creation of the Federal Reserve and the income tax that has stolen the wealth of Americans? Inflation was nearly nonexistent in the 19th century. $20 could buy a nice suit in the 1790s and in the first decade of the 20th century.
I have my doubts that Musk, the king of crony capitalism, whose wealth resulted from his ability to serve fraudulent green government agendas, will seriously attack the welfare state, much less the causes of poverty: the Federal Reserve and the IRS, ie., attack his golden goose.
Mark, I think you of all people know as well as I do that most of the "poverty" in the West is caused by single-mother homes. Musk has good reason to attack this, given that all his children seem to be living in one. If he ducks this challenge, especially given his new responsibility, then he will be branding himself as something far more ignominious than a plutocrat.
Unlike most exiled fathers, if that’s what Musk is, he certainly hasn’t suffered, and I doubt his children have suffered. Has he discussed the family destruction industry or his own case, or indicated any intention to reform the courts, or dismantle all federal involvement with family issues?
I agree, this is deeply disappointing and brings his character into question. I have been trying to find out more about his case, but it is difficult. I read that he consented to have his son's genitals removed, but I have not been able to confirm this.
Of course, after welfare was started, poverty increased due to single-mother homes. But prior to the start of welfare, what was the cause of the poverty that signaled need for welfare?
since late last century a family is a household with children, defathering is still an unwritten capital crime! (horsethieves used to be hanged, what about child theft?)
The other day I was taking a walk across a field I had not been to for some time. What motivated me to do this was that I thought I heard a commotion in the field the night before, but it was too dark to see anything. To my consternation, there was disturbed burnt grass and soil in my field. Someone in some condition had used my property to start a small fire and dig a latrine. Surprisingly, I discovered a leather wallet lying on the ground next to the latrine hole. When I opened it up, it had over $500 in cash and no ID. What should I do? And should I continue to take walks out in that field? I do need exercise.
Human nature adores acquisition and forever seeks to expand its ability to acquire.
Child support enforcement is the end result of welfare. It is now considered a $100 BILLION/YR. industry. And, it all started when University of Wisconsin Professor Winkelstein brought back the child support enforcement laws from socialist Sweden in the late 1970s. Child Support Enforcement was known as "The Wisconsin Model". What people do not realize is that child support enforcement (the greatest welfare program on Earth, since it has now attacked the middle and upper classes), came from former Soviet Family Law and is now part of Russian Family Law, Article 81.
Child support welfare and its enforcement bureaucracy using asset seizure, wage garnishment, imprisonment for debt, and destroying a father's ability to survive, made it profitable for women to take the father out of the family and use the father as personal bank account until his assets, resources, and work ethic were destroyed, and all that was left was a human husk after they dropped out of society. This is the Socialist/Communist way. Remove the father from the family, insert the state as the "Daddy", destroy the family, and the State's power is increased exponentially. And, it is paid for "happily" by the taxpayers being duped by all of this.
All very true. I write quite a lot about child support in my new book, "Who Lost America?" and I discuss it at length on my YoTube interview with "This is Shah". In fact, he too discusses it a lot and very knowledgeably, especially in his interview with Pearl Davis. I notice that Jeff Younger does as well with his own interview with Pearl just this past week. So hopefully we can get it into the "mainstream", where it should be. It drives a lot of chacenery. Thanks for the summary, Bruce.
After being a fathers rights advocate and divorce reform advocate since 1985, and being a constitutional law and family law legal technician and paralegal for over 35 years, I testified before Congress (attempted to stop Sen. Bill Bradley's anti-retroactive child support arrearages provision in the child support enforcement laws). I testified before the NJ Legislature numerous times on child support, presumptive joint custody, incorporating a false allegation punishment section into the NJ DV laws, alimony modification laws, and participating in blocking family court judicial re-nominations, I have accumulated vast knowledge on the NJ, NY, NC, GA and Federal courts and how they work involving fathers' rights and divorce reform.
thank you for the great post.. but my mmm question, enquiry,,, wondering is: what happens when men stop giving their sperm over!!!???
Or do you think Governments will start stealing sperm or start seducing men into giving it up because we might go extinct!!!!
I am sure there are enough men and women that will remain in marriages to perpetuate the species. If not, then your idea of sperm banks or paying men to have children (like they do in Communist China) will result.
Come on Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, you got this!!
Your comments are well taken. Generally, the notion of government efficiency can lead to atrocity. Efficiency isn't the same as getting things right. I'm an engineer, so I understand this completely and it's almost simple at some point. Of course, we strive for efficiency. But doing some foolish simple thing that doesn't work properly is a bad thing. I'm following the news on this one, and trying to use sources that don't fall into the simple stupid category: https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/trumps-new-doge-begins-to-identify-federal-agencies-for-overhaul-5764627
"and saw that enlisting and manipulating the poor as political pawns could help to eradicate those values. From the start, it was designed to control a population"
Stephen you really get to the point.
The thing that took me a long time to question anything was to actually know what the question possibly was!! One of the big questions I have for people, not literally, is 'where does the money come from and where does it go to?'
when I read your sentence I really saw an image of the poor revelling in the money they received from the evil capitalists or people who earned more than them but until one starts thinking about, "what happens to me if I got so rich?"
There is a young woman here in Switzerland, socialist who has brought up that anyone with an inheritance of 50 million plus Swiss francs should pay huge taxes.. I asked myself or question.. what happens if you win the Swiss or European Lottery which is sometimes worth 44 million.. in a few moves one could find themselves a multi millionaire and all of a sudden having to pay taxes that one never dreamt of..because one had been poor most of the life...
another example is: I know of someone who refuses to work for Big Pharma because of all their evil ways and yet they are quite happy to work in France for a University and 'possibly' being paid by Tax Payers money... I get it.. but I have to ask questions.
thanks for the post...
Sorry, the University of Wisconsin Professor who brought Soviet-style child support enforcement into the United States was no Winkelstein, but Irwin Garfinkle.
Is this true? If I knew this, I had forgotten. He is considered a very "mainstream" and respectable scholar.
Read "The Child Support Guideline Problem", Roger F. Gay, MSc * and Gregory J. Palumbo, Ph.D. ** May 6, 1998 https://adrr.com/law1/csp11.htm
PS to all this: Dean Tong provides help to families caught up on false child abuse accusations, including serving as an expert witness. In fact, he gave me the idea for this article: https://www.facebook.com/Tongdean560/
“From the start, it [welfare] stemmed from an ideology that was deeply hostile to traditional values like family and country, and saw that enlisting and manipulating the poor as political pawns could help to eradicate those values. From the start, it was designed to control a population.”
The question is begged, what created poverty?
Do you ever consider and discuss creation of the Federal Reserve and the income tax that has stolen the wealth of Americans? Inflation was nearly nonexistent in the 19th century. $20 could buy a nice suit in the 1790s and in the first decade of the 20th century.
See: ECONOMIC DEPRESSION BY DESIGN
See http://www.issuesoutline.org/#economy
I have my doubts that Musk, the king of crony capitalism, whose wealth resulted from his ability to serve fraudulent green government agendas, will seriously attack the welfare state, much less the causes of poverty: the Federal Reserve and the IRS, ie., attack his golden goose.
Mark, I think you of all people know as well as I do that most of the "poverty" in the West is caused by single-mother homes. Musk has good reason to attack this, given that all his children seem to be living in one. If he ducks this challenge, especially given his new responsibility, then he will be branding himself as something far more ignominious than a plutocrat.
Unlike most exiled fathers, if that’s what Musk is, he certainly hasn’t suffered, and I doubt his children have suffered. Has he discussed the family destruction industry or his own case, or indicated any intention to reform the courts, or dismantle all federal involvement with family issues?
I agree, this is deeply disappointing and brings his character into question. I have been trying to find out more about his case, but it is difficult. I read that he consented to have his son's genitals removed, but I have not been able to confirm this.
Of course, after welfare was started, poverty increased due to single-mother homes. But prior to the start of welfare, what was the cause of the poverty that signaled need for welfare?
Is it possible for billionaires to serve both God and Mammon? Jesus already answered that question. The answer is no. Unless … https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew+19:16-30&version=ERV
since late last century a family is a household with children, defathering is still an unwritten capital crime! (horsethieves used to be hanged, what about child theft?)
Dear Stephen (in the spirit of Dear Abby)
The other day I was taking a walk across a field I had not been to for some time. What motivated me to do this was that I thought I heard a commotion in the field the night before, but it was too dark to see anything. To my consternation, there was disturbed burnt grass and soil in my field. Someone in some condition had used my property to start a small fire and dig a latrine. Surprisingly, I discovered a leather wallet lying on the ground next to the latrine hole. When I opened it up, it had over $500 in cash and no ID. What should I do? And should I continue to take walks out in that field? I do need exercise.
Human nature adores acquisition and forever seeks to expand its ability to acquire.